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如果你不想一辈子做工程师,必看!

如果你不想一辈子做工程师,必看!

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李一男2003 年在港湾给开发人员培训时的语录
作者:【三石】 

[1]好好规划自己的路,不要跟着感觉走!根据个人的理想决策安排,绝大部分人并不指望成为什么院士或教授,而是希望活得滋润一些,爽一些。那么,就需要慎重安排自己的轨迹。从哪个行业入手,逐渐对该行业深入了解,不要频繁跳槽,特别是不要为了一点工资而转移阵 地,从长远看,这点钱根本不算什么,当你对一个行业有那么几年的体会,以后钱根本不是问题。频繁地动荡不是上策,最后你对哪个行业都没有摸透,永远是新手!

[2]可以做技术,切不可沉湎于技术。千万不可一门心思钻研技术!给自己很大压力,如果你的心思全 部放在这上面,那么注定你将成为孔乙己一类的人物!适可而止为之,因为技术只不过是你今后前途的支柱之一,而且还不是最大的支柱,除非你只愿意到老还是个工程师!

[3]不要去做技术高手,只去做综合素质高手!在企业里混,我们时常瞧不起某人,说他“什么都不懂,凭啥拿那么多钱,凭啥升官!”这是普遍的典型的工程师的迂腐之言。8051 很牛吗?人家能上去必然有他的本事,而且是你没有的本事。你想想,老板搞经营那么多年, 难道见识不如你这个新兵?人家或许善于管理,善于领会老板意图,善于部门协调等等。因此务必培养自己多方面的能力,包括管理,亲和力,察言观色能力,攻关能力等,要成为综合素质的高手,则前途无量,否则只能躲在角落看示波器!技术以外的技能才是更重要的本 事!!从古到今,美国日本,一律如此!

[4]多交社会三教九流的朋友!不要只和工程师交往,认为有共同语言,其实更重要的是和其他类人物交往,如果你希望有朝一日当老板或高层管理,那么你整日面对的就是这些人。了解他们的经历,思维习惯,爱好,学习他们处理问题的模式,了解社会各个角落的现象和问题 ,这是以后发展的巨大的本钱,没有这些以后就会笨手笨脚,跌跌撞撞,遇到重重困难,交不少学费,成功的概率大大降低!

[5]知识涉猎不一定专,但一定要广!多看看其他方面的书,金融,财会,进出口,税务,法律等等,为以后做一些积累,以后的用处会更大!会少交许多学费!!

[6]抓住时机向技术管理或市场销售方面的转变!要想有前途就不能一直搞开发,适当时候要转变为管理或销售,前途会更大,以前搞技术也没有白搞,以后还用得着。搞管理可以培养自己的领导能力,搞销售可以培养自己的市场概念和思维,同时为自己以后发展积累庞大的人 脉!应该说这才是前途的真正支柱。。?

[7]逐渐克服自己的心里弱点和性格缺陷!多疑,敏感,天真(贬义,并不可爱),犹豫不决,胆怯,多虑,脸皮太薄,心不够黑,教条式思维。。。这些工程师普遍存在的性格弱点必须改变!很难吗?只在床上想一想当然不可能,去帮朋友守一个月地摊,包准有效果,去实践 ,而不要只想!不克服这些缺点,一切不可能,甚至连项目经理都当不好--尽管你可能技术不错!

[8]工作的同时要为以后做准备!建立自己的工作环境!及早为自己配置一个工作环境,装备电脑,示波器(可以买个二手的),仿真器,编程器等,业余可以接点活,一方面接触市场,培养市场感觉,同时也积累资金,更重要的是准备自己的产品,咱搞技术的没有钱,只有技 术,技术的代表不是学历和证书,而是产品,拿出象样的产品,就可技术转让或与人合作搞企业!先把东西准备好,等待机会,否则,有了机会也抓不住!

[9]要学会善于推销自己!不仅要能干,还要能说,能写,善于利用一切机会推销自己,树立自己的品牌形象,很必要!要创造条件让别人了解自己,不然老板怎么知道你能干?外面的投资人怎么相信你?提早把自己推销出去,机会自然会来找你!搞个个人主页是个好注意!! 特别是培养自己在行业的名气,有了名气,高薪机会自不在话下,更重要的是有合作的机会...

[10]该出手时便出手!永远不可能有100%把握!!!条件差不多就要大胆去干,去闯出自己的事业,不要犹豫,不要彷徨,干了不一定成功,但至少为下一次冲击积累了经验,不干永远没出息,而且要干成必然要经历失败。不经历风雨,怎么见彩虹,没有人能随随便便成功 !

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日月光(ASE)某位工程师,离别感言

日月光(ASE)某位工程师,离别感言

         日月光(ASE)某位工程师,离别感言, 这篇文章,造成公司不小的震撼, 还被副总约谈一番, 经过几番慰留,目前暂以留职停薪处理,完成学业再说!原文是英文,已附上翻译.

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I will end my job in ASE on 8/31 and then I will go to study?inNational  Sun-Yan-San University.I want to appreciate many peoplein ASE during my  working time.am glad to cooperate with you over two years.

我将在8/31结束我在日月光的工作,然後我将到中山大学读书。我要感谢很多在我於日月光工作期间帮助我的人。非常高兴能与你们合作超过两年的时光。

I entered ASE on 2000/3/13. It's nearly my first job (my firstjob existed only one month) after I graduated from army, and I
learned> many things during two years. There are many advantages inthis company.

我在2000/3/13进到日月光,这几乎是我自陆军退伍後的第一份工作(我的第一份工作仅做了一个月),在这两年当中,我学到很多事情。

First, the hierarchy in ASE is not very obvious. The distinctnessamong manager, staff member and clerk is latent and working atmospherein ASE is approximatelyharmonious.That's the reason why I can stayhere over two  years.

第一,日月光的阶级意识不是非常明显,经理、职员和助理之间的差异是潜在的’b日月光的工作气氛大致上是很和谐的,这也是我为什麽能在此超过两年的原因。

Second, semiconductor industry is a global competitive environment.Working in ASE can help me to extend my vision about world environment.Working in ASE can help me to extend my vision about world because I have many opportunities to work with people from many countries.
English ability improvement is the largest income for me in my careerlife. This experience can help me to compete with other people in this globalize competitive market in the future. Working in IC assembly
industry can study about knowledge of all the semiconductor supply chain from wafer fabrication  to SMT.

It's a good way to involve into electronic engineering for
mechanical background engineers.

第二,半导体产业是全球竞争性的环境,在日月光工作可以帮助扩展自己对
世界的视野,因为可以有机会跟来自不同国家的人工作。英文能力的提应该是我
在日月光工作的最大收。这工作的经验可以帮助我在未来全球化的竞争市场上与他
人竞争。

在封装产业工作可以学习到整个半导体供应链的知识,从晶圆造到上板,
对於机械工程背景的工程师而言,这是切入电子工程的一个捷径。


Third, I studied mechanical engineering in university and in
graduated school; working experience let me know about that other subject is
also important for an engineer. I didn't like chemistry in school, but
we have many chemical materials here and engineers need to have
knowledge about materials.This let me understand what's application of
knowledge in  school and I also try to learn many things about semiconductor
by myself  after work. These are my incomes in ASE during these two years.


第三,我在大学和研究所学的是机械工程,工作上的经验使我了解其它的科
目对一位工程师是同样重要的。我在学校不喜欢化学,但是我们在这用到很多化学
的材料,工程师需要有材料的相关知识,这使我了解学校学的知识有何应用,同时我
在上班时候还自修很多半导体的相关知识。这些都是我在日月光两年的收。

Working in a large company can also let me know about what other
department doing in an enterprise like human resource, producing
management,inventory, and many things. ASE is an institutional company.
Maybe someone doesn't think so.?But if we compare with some other
companies, ASE is really more institutional in many departments.

在大公司工作也可让我知道在一间企业其它部门的功能,像是人资、生产管
理、仓储管理和很多的事情,日月光是间有制度的公司,也许有人不认为如此,
如果跟某些其它公司来说,日月光的确在很多部门还是比较有制度的。

However, I also have some suggestions and complaints about ASE.?
The definition of position of process engineer is not very clear.
After  worked here over two years, I am still not sure what's the
difference among  process engineer, R&D engineer and QA engineer.?
People in production line also don't know about this point.?So there are
many tedious  things need process engineer to do.


然而,我也有一些对日月光的建议和抱怨。程工程师职务的定义不是很明确,
在工作两年之後,我还是不太确定,到底程、研发和品管工程师的差异在哪里。
生产线的人同样也不清楚这一点,所以有很多繁杂之事都要程工程师去处理。


Most things I handled in my first year in ASE are excursive events
happened in production line. I always answer phone from production
line,"There is a wetting not enough case, and what should we do" What
can I do?? The solution is to reject or to waive.?Isn't it the job of
QA engineer?

Why don't people in production call QA engineer to argue the waived
criteria with QA engineer? Why I must waive the products for production
line?  Why don't people in production line be responsible for their fault?

Most of my time in first year is to sign "Hold and Release notice" day
after day.Isn't it the job of supervisor in production line?

在我在日月光的第一年,大部份时间都是处理生产线发生的异常。我常接到从生产
线打来的电话说:「有一批货有出水不良,我们要怎麽办?」我能怎麽办?不是退货
就是放宽规格。这不是QA工程师该做的吗?为什麽生产线不自己去找QA工程师谈放宽
的规格?为什麽我必须替生产线放宽产品规格?为什麽生产线的人不能替自己造成的
问题负责?在我第一年的大部份时间就是日复一日地签停止放行单,这不是生产线主
任就可以做的工作吗?


I supposed job of process engineer is similar with R&D
engineer,but besides new process and material phased in, we also have to handle
all the tedious and trouble things happened in production line. They
are like they can't find travel cards, lead-frames are not enough, they
set up by wrong parameters, and they don't know where the products shipped.
Most of our energy is be exhausted by these boring and routine things
happened in production line. I don't think that process engineer still have
interesting to learn about new invention in assembly technology after
twisted by these tedious things. Therefore when we really meat large trouble
from customer complaint, we don't know how to solve it.

It's like n-VIDIA case, and we  lost a large customer. Engineers
are exhausted by so many little tedious  things and then they don't
have  enough ability to solve real excursion needs  engineers to handle.
We can even say it's lack of professional ability. In  my opinion, an
engineer should be trained to have ability to solve big  trouble, not the chicke
n feathers and garlic skins. On the other hand, an  engineer's ability
should be based on knowledge of materials, process, and  equipment but
doesn't on tedious administration procedure.

我假设程工程师的工作是类似研发工程师,但是除了新程和新材料的导
入之外,我们还必须处理所有生产线发生的杂务和麻烦。像是一些他们找不到路
单、钉架不够用、他们设错数、他们不知道产品该出货到哪里。我们工程师大部份
的精力就耗在这些发生在生产线上无聊又重覆的事情。

在被这些杂事纠缠之後,我不认为程工程师还会有兴趣去学习封装技术的相关新知。
因此,当我们真正遇到来自客户抱怨的重大异常时,我们反而不知该如何解决,
如同n-Vidia的个案,我们因此失去了一个大客户。工程师被太多细小琐事缠身,然
後他们没有能力解决真正需要工程师处理的异常,我们甚至可以说是专业能力不足?
我认为,一位工程师应该被训练有能力处理大麻烦,而不是一些鸡毛蒜皮的小事。
换句话说,工程师的能力应该以对材料、程、设备的知识为基础,而不是在
处理繁杂行政程序上。


Peter Drucker proposed that enterprise must reduce tedious things
for knowledge worker whose contribution is not handling these routine
things.

Does ASE consider engineer be a knowledge worker? When we phased in a
new material, most we can do is to try and error. We try to use
different materials and processes and to compare them by reliability result.

We always do experiment blindly from customer's request. Many
engineer don't have enough knowledge background to convince customer it's
unnecessary to do it because engineers don't have enough time to study.?These
boring excursive events only exhaust them and engineers don't grow up intheir
knowledge.When they notice about this, the only thing they can do is to  change
a new way in their career life.

If we really hope that engineers  can extend their knowledge
during working,we should train people in  production line to handle something
independently.At least, I don't  consider to sign "hold and release notice" or t
o change the defect code to  die discrepancy code or to account how many
dies lost during process or to bind working instructions on travel cards
can help engineers to extend their  knowledge.?

I think that company provides 30000 one month to an  engineer also
doesn't want he only to handle this kind of things.

彼得杜拉克认为企业应该减少知识工作者的杂务,因为他们对公司的贡献不在於处
理这些琐事。日月光是否视工程师为知识工作者呢?当我们导入新材料时,我们最常
做的就尝试错误。我们试着用不同的材料和程比较它们可靠度的结果。我们总是盲
目地做着客户要求的实验,很多工程师并没有足够的知识背景说服客户这是不需要做
的,因为他们并没有足够的时间去学习。工程师不断地虚耗在一些琐事上面,又无
法在知识上有成长。

当他们发现到这一点时,他们唯一能做的就是另外在他们职业生涯中找新的出路。
如果我们真的希望工程师们能在工作中拓展知识,我们应该训练生产线的人独立处理某些事

至少,我不认为  签"暂停放行单"或是将缺点码调成晶粒差异或是h数
程中损失多少颗晶粒还是将作业指示钉在